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Tuesday, June 26, 2012
ATF leader’s email could be Fast and Furious smoking gun and Holder admitted Obama can’t shield it
Rep Issa | Rep Cummings
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Sen Grassley | Pres Obama & AG Holder |
A single internal Department of Justice email could be the smoking-gun document in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal — if it turns out to contain what congressional investigators have said it does.
The document would establish that wiretap application documents show senior DOJ officials knew about and approved the gunwalking tactic in Fast and Furious. This is the opposite of what Attorney General Eric Holder and House oversight committee ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings have claimed. [Well you don't think Holder or Cummings would do anything to put the POTUS in any sort of bad light, do ya?]
It appears that email would also prove senior DOJ officials, likely including Holder himself, knew in March 2011 that a Feb. 4, 2011 letter from the DOJ to Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley falsely denied guns were permitted to “walk” into Mexico. The DOJ allowed that false letter to stand for nine more months, only withdrawing it in December 2011. [Hindsight is a 20/20 picture of beauty, in this case. What has casued me to lose all faith in ANY politician has been brought about in this case alone. There was a time I truly believed there were a FEW good ole American Patriots still hanging around the watering holes in D.C., but that is simply a terrible assumption on my part. As I read the history books about the men and women who worked so hard to get this new form of government going, my blood pressure starts lifting the skin on my bald head. Our forefathers gave not only their lives to fight the British, the French and the Spanish to build this country, but many gave ALL their worldly possessions and wealth. They sold what they had and gave the money to help finance out military. They died as broke beggars. Today, there isn't ONE politician that would do that. Instead, they do everything they can, legal or illegal, to build their large bank accounts, portfolios, and lands. How sad that so many gave all and today it's turned into get all you can while the getting is good. It makes one want to go hunting and the trees in D.C., I hear, are full of squirrels.]
During the June 24 broadcast of Fox News Sunday, House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa cited the email as a “good example” of a specific document his committee knows Holder is hiding from Congress. [I've wondered.... doesn't the House Oversight Committee have the power to issue or have issued a search warrant? If so, why wasn't that step put into place. Rep William Jefferson of LA had a search warrant issued and they went through his D.C. office as well as his house and office in LA. What's the difference here???]
“The ATF director, Kenneth Melson, sent an e-mail. And he had said to us in sworn testimony that, in fact, he had concerns,” Issa said. “And we want to see that e-mail because that’s an example where he was saying, if we believe his sworn testimony, that guns walked. And he said it shortly after February 4, and [on] July 4. When he told us that, we began asking for that document.”
But the details of it surfaced first when Grassley mentioned it for the first time publicly during a June 12 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing where Holder was testifying.
“He [Melson] immediately sent an email warning others, ‘back off the letter to Sen. Grassley in light of the information in the affidavits,’” Grassley explained.
Ken Melson, now the former acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, purportedly sent that email to several DOJ leaders in March 2011. According to Grassley, Melson wrote that he had reviewed the wiretap applications — the same documents Cummings and Holder claim do not show senior DOJ officials knew of or approved gunwalking tactics in Fast and Furious.
“ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson described reading those same wiretap affidavits in March of last year,” Grassley told Holder during the Senate hearing. “He said he was alarmed that the information in the affidavits contradicted the public denial to Congress.”
It appears Republican congressional investigators first learned of the Melson email’s existence on July 4, 2011, when Melson chose to give a lengthy deposition on Fast and Furious without DOJ and ATF lawyers present. Grassley told Holder during the Senate hearing that congressional investigators first requested that the DOJ provide Congress with that email during July 2011, shortly after Melson made his then-secret trip across town to Capitol Hill.
The wiretap documents themselves are under federal court seal, leaving Grassley and Issa to tussle with Holder and Cumming about what they might show. Issa has said a whistleblower provided copies to his committee.
Holder has declined to ask the federal judge who sealed them to unseal them. The March 2011 Melson email, then, may be the only legal way — without violating a court order — to document the agreement of some senior Obama administration members with Issa’s and Grassley’s characterizations of the documents.
Melson’s email could also prove that although senior DOJ officials knew in March 2011 that the Feb. 4, 2011 letter was false, they chose to continue misleading Congress with gunwalking denials for several months. [And there is no perjury charges??? You mean if we're called before a Congressional hearing we can lie and suffer no consequences???]
“We need to see it [the email] to corroborate his testimony,” Grassley said during the June 12 hearing. “But the Department is withholding that email along with every other document after Feb. 4, 2011.”
Grassley pressed Holder on the question of how DOJ had the authority to withhold Melson’s email from Congress, a full week before President Obama indicated that he would invoke executive privilege to shield requested documents. At that time, Holder claimed the Melson email would not be protected by executive privilege. [And you believed him??? Sen Grassley and Rep Issa seem to be a couple of bricks short of building a brick wall, sometimes. Obama, Holder, Napolitano, all the Obama administration are liars and it's such a well known FACT. The 'word' of a man used to be something that was held is honor because many times a man's word was alll that he had. Today a man's word is less important than a septic tank that's over running. And even more so when it comes to the clowns in government.]
“On what legal ground are you withholding that email?” He asked. “The president can’t claim executive privilege to withhold that email, is that correct?”
“Well, let me just say this: We have reached out to Chairman Issa to work our way through these issues,” Holder filibustered. “We have had sporadic contacts and we are prepared to make – I am prepared to make – compromises with regard to the documents that can be made available. There is a basis for withholding these documents if they deal with the deliberative …” [Having watched, on CSPAN, all of the proceedings that was available to me, I never one time saw Eric Holder answer a question forthrightly, that was asked to him, in regards to any important document, meeting, or exercise. NEVER!! The republican committee members were always stone-walled and had to stop him and move on to another question. Of Course when a democrat member had their turn, they never asked any truth seeking questions. Especially Cummings and Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton. It was pure racism whenn they were interviewing Holder. They spent their time telling Holder just how great of a job he was doing (but didn't add the great job he was doing was covering Obama's behind). They never asked any 'hard' questions that would uncover a truth. But then Holder and Obama are pure liars and they, I do believe, think they are telling the truth when they are lying.]
“But not on executive privilege?” Grassley interrupted.
“No,” Holder responded.
Holder spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler wouldn’t answer when The Daily Caller asked her if the DOJ was planning to provide the Melson email to Congress.
Here's a case that has been going on for almost two (2) years. Sen Grassley and Rep Issa have, in my opinion, NOT done all they could have done or done what they have done in a timely manner. They've let Holder and Obama run them in and out of the rabbitt hole and avoid doing what they should have done just to 'get-a-long'. Patheic!! If we ever find one politician who truly has any backbone, it will be a day that the whole world should stop what they are doing and celebrate. There were a few new congress critters who were voted in during the 2010 elections
Monday, April 2, 2012
Hungarian President Resigns In Plagiarism Scandal
My reason for posting this is to show that although this is a lot more different than the things President Obama is guilty of doing, there are some people in high places who still have honor. Still do the 'right thing' no matter what the cost.
President Pal Schmitt of Hungary, wrote a doctoral dissertation 20 years ago, but he didn't write it himself, he plagiarised it. Now com'on, is that really vile enough to have a man 'voluntarly' resign from the Presidency of a Country?? He didn't kill anyone. He didn't send anyone to jail for life. He didn't start a war. He wasn't found in violation of the Country's Laws that he swore to up hold. No, he simple used someone else's work in order to get his doctorate. On the other hand, here in America, we have a President that has comitted many acts that should have called for his impeachment, but it wasn't.
But to compare, President Obama has never given one thought to resigning because of all the illegal things he has done. Not once has he been 'man' enought to say to the country, 'I've made a mistake and need to set it right. So effective Month/Date/Year I'll be stepping down so I'll not be in the way of those who will be correcting my mistake'.
Can you imagine what it would be like to hear Obama say anything like that?? And then follow through with it?? What a refreshing moment that would be!
Nope you'll never hear him say anything close to that. He's so full of himself that he honestly believes he doesn't make mistakes. He's perfect in all that he does and says.
And for those who may say he hasn't done anything wrong, here are a few examples:
- A strong advocate of “global warming”; revealed to be a hoax in 2009.
- Admitted there were no “shovel-ready jobs.”
- Mortgage refinance plan deemed a complete failure.
- Appointment of White House policy “Czars”, one of whom was a Communist.
- Failed foreign policy; Israel, Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
- Mishandling of BP oil spill; slow to react, shut down all drilling in Gulf of Mexico.
- Bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia.
- Stopped the building of the XL Keystone pipeline. Has opposed offshore and domestic oil drilling
- The Solyndra “Green energy” bankruptcy whose loan guarantee cost taxpayers a half billion dollars.
- The “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal.
- Sued Arizona for trying to control illegal immigration.
- A rogue Environmental Protection Agency.
- First downgrade of U.S. debt rating in nation’s history.
- Wanted to shut down Guantanamo.
- Attempted to stop Boeing from building a manufacturing unit in South Carolina.
- Government takeover of General Motors.
- Authorized military action in Libya without Congressional approval.
- Continues to hide college records, passport and Social Security number information.
- Not a “natural born” citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution (both parents must be U.S. citizens to be President) and thus he was ineligible to run, ineligible to hold the office, and ineligible to run again.
Do you really need more evidence he has no HONOR?
Hungarian president resigns in plagiarism scandal
By PABLO GORONDI | The Associated Press – 6 hours ago
BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) Hungarian President Pal Schmitt resigned Monday because of a plagiarism scandal regarding a doctoral dissertation he had written 20 years ago on the Olympics.
Schmitt, who was elected to his largely ceremonial office in 2010 for a five-year term, told Parliament he was stepping down because the controversy over his dissertation was dividing Hungary.
''When my personal issue divides my beloved nation instead of uniting it, I feel it to be my personal duty to finish my service and resign,'' Schmitt said, drawing applause and cheers from opposition lawmakers. ''I ask God's blessing for Hungary and for your work.''
Schmitt, 69, then quickly left the chamber accompanied by Prime Minister Viktor Orban as lawmakers from the governing parties - Orban's Fidesz and the Christian Democrats - gave him a standing ovation.
Parliament later voted 338-5, with six abstentions, to accept Schmitt's resignation.
Last week, Schmitt's 1992 doctorate from Semmelweis University was revoked after a university committee found that most of his thesis about the modern Olympic Games had been copied from two other authors.
The International Olympic Committee said Monday it would review the case and decide whether any action is needed against Schmitt, who has been an IOC member since 1983. Schmitt, who won gold medals at the 1968 and 1972 Olympics for fencing, could face IOC sanctions for tarnishing the Olympic movement.
Hungary's governing coalition said it would hold talks with the three other parliamentary parties to find a successor. Speaker Laszlo Kover will replace Schmitt until a new president is elected by lawmakers in the next 30 days.
Schmitt's resignation - a day after he told state radio he would not step down - comes at a turbulent time in Hungarian politics. Orban, who had made his name by protesting Hungary's communist dictatorship, is now being criticized for pushing the Eastern European nation toward centralized rule.
The European Union, which Hungary joined in 2004, has launched legal proceedings against Hungary because it believes that Orban's coalition, which has an unassailable two-thirds majority in Parliament, is compromising democratic principles such as the independence of the central bank and judiciary with new laws.
The conservative government has also changed the country's media law, a move widely criticized for boosting political control over the press.
Late in 2011, Hungary surprisingly asked the EU and the International Monetary Fund for financial assistance as its currency fell to all-time lows against the euro. However, official talks with the lenders have yet to start, partially because legal changes demanded by the EU and the IMF have yet to be seen.
The laws challenged by the EU, including a few that were partially struck down by Hungary's own Constitutional Court, are among the hundreds of bills passed by Parliament over the past 18 months and signed by Schmitt.
The pressure on Schmitt had been building up. Tivadar Tulassay, the head of Semmelweis University, resigned Sunday saying he had backed the decision to revoke Schmitt's degree but lost the confidence of the Ministry of National Resources, which oversees educational affairs.
Orban himself had avoided the issue by saying the president enjoyed immunity and that only Schmitt himself could decide to resign.
During most of his speech Monday, Schmitt defended his doctorate and said he would appeal its revocation at the university and, if needed, in the courts.
''This is a matter of honor, and my conscience is clear,'' Schmitt said, adding that he was the victim of a political attack. He said would write a new doctoral dissertation about the relationship between sports and environmental protection.
Schmitt is the first Hungarian president to resign since the end of communism in 1990. Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany resigned in 2009, a few months after Hungary received a (euro) 20 billion ($26.6 billion) bailout from the IMF and other creditors.
My reason for posting this is to show that although this is a lot more different than the things President Obama is guilty of doing, there are some people in high places who still have honor. Still do the 'right thing' no matter what the cost.
President Pal Schmitt of Hungary, wrote a doctoral dissertation 20 years ago, but he didn't write it himself, he plagiarised it. Now com'on, is that really vile enough to have a man 'voluntarly' resign from the Presidency of a Country?? He didn't kill anyone. He didn't send anyone to jail for life. He didn't start a war. He wasn't found in violation of the Country's Laws that he swore to up hold. No, he simple used someone else's work in order to get his doctorate. On the other hand, here in America, we have a President that has comitted many acts that should have called for his impeachment, but it wasn't.
But to compare, President Obama has never given one thought to resigning because of all the illegal things he has done. Not once has he been 'man' enought to say to the country, 'I've made a mistake and need to set it right. So effective Month/Date/Year I'll be stepping down so I'll not be in the way of those who will be correcting my mistake'.
Can you imagine what it would be like to hear Obama say anything like that?? And then follow through with it?? What a refreshing moment that would be!
Nope you'll never hear him say anything close to that. He's so full of himself that he honestly believes he doesn't make mistakes. He's perfect in all that he does and says.
And for those who may say he hasn't done anything wrong, here are a few examples:
- A strong advocate of “global warming”; revealed to be a hoax in 2009.
- Admitted there were no “shovel-ready jobs.”
- Mortgage refinance plan deemed a complete failure.
- Appointment of White House policy “Czars”, one of whom was a Communist.
- Failed foreign policy; Israel, Iran, North Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.
- Mishandling of BP oil spill; slow to react, shut down all drilling in Gulf of Mexico.
- Bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia.
- Stopped the building of the XL Keystone pipeline. Has opposed offshore and domestic oil drilling
- The Solyndra “Green energy” bankruptcy whose loan guarantee cost taxpayers a half billion dollars.
- The “Fast and Furious” gun-running scandal.
- Sued Arizona for trying to control illegal immigration.
- A rogue Environmental Protection Agency.
- First downgrade of U.S. debt rating in nation’s history.
- Wanted to shut down Guantanamo.
- Attempted to stop Boeing from building a manufacturing unit in South Carolina.
- Government takeover of General Motors.
- Authorized military action in Libya without Congressional approval.
- Continues to hide college records, passport and Social Security number information.
- Not a “natural born” citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution (both parents must be U.S. citizens to be President) and thus he was ineligible to run, ineligible to hold the office, and ineligible to run again.
Hungarian president resigns in plagiarism scandal
By PABLO GORONDI | The Associated Press – 6 hours ago
BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) Hungarian President Pal Schmitt resigned Monday because of a plagiarism scandal regarding a doctoral dissertation he had written 20 years ago on the Olympics.
Schmitt, who was elected to his largely ceremonial office in 2010 for a five-year term, told Parliament he was stepping down because the controversy over his dissertation was dividing Hungary.
''When my personal issue divides my beloved nation instead of uniting it, I feel it to be my personal duty to finish my service and resign,'' Schmitt said, drawing applause and cheers from opposition lawmakers. ''I ask God's blessing for Hungary and for your work.''
Schmitt, 69, then quickly left the chamber accompanied by Prime Minister Viktor Orban as lawmakers from the governing parties - Orban's Fidesz and the Christian Democrats - gave him a standing ovation.
Parliament later voted 338-5, with six abstentions, to accept Schmitt's resignation.
Last week, Schmitt's 1992 doctorate from Semmelweis University was revoked after a university committee found that most of his thesis about the modern Olympic Games had been copied from two other authors.
The International Olympic Committee said Monday it would review the case and decide whether any action is needed against Schmitt, who has been an IOC member since 1983. Schmitt, who won gold medals at the 1968 and 1972 Olympics for fencing, could face IOC sanctions for tarnishing the Olympic movement.
Hungary's governing coalition said it would hold talks with the three other parliamentary parties to find a successor. Speaker Laszlo Kover will replace Schmitt until a new president is elected by lawmakers in the next 30 days.
Schmitt's resignation - a day after he told state radio he would not step down - comes at a turbulent time in Hungarian politics. Orban, who had made his name by protesting Hungary's communist dictatorship, is now being criticized for pushing the Eastern European nation toward centralized rule.
The European Union, which Hungary joined in 2004, has launched legal proceedings against Hungary because it believes that Orban's coalition, which has an unassailable two-thirds majority in Parliament, is compromising democratic principles such as the independence of the central bank and judiciary with new laws.
The conservative government has also changed the country's media law, a move widely criticized for boosting political control over the press.
Late in 2011, Hungary surprisingly asked the EU and the International Monetary Fund for financial assistance as its currency fell to all-time lows against the euro. However, official talks with the lenders have yet to start, partially because legal changes demanded by the EU and the IMF have yet to be seen.
The laws challenged by the EU, including a few that were partially struck down by Hungary's own Constitutional Court, are among the hundreds of bills passed by Parliament over the past 18 months and signed by Schmitt.
The pressure on Schmitt had been building up. Tivadar Tulassay, the head of Semmelweis University, resigned Sunday saying he had backed the decision to revoke Schmitt's degree but lost the confidence of the Ministry of National Resources, which oversees educational affairs.
Orban himself had avoided the issue by saying the president enjoyed immunity and that only Schmitt himself could decide to resign.
During most of his speech Monday, Schmitt defended his doctorate and said he would appeal its revocation at the university and, if needed, in the courts.
''This is a matter of honor, and my conscience is clear,'' Schmitt said, adding that he was the victim of a political attack. He said would write a new doctoral dissertation about the relationship between sports and environmental protection.
Schmitt is the first Hungarian president to resign since the end of communism in 1990. Socialist Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany resigned in 2009, a few months after Hungary received a (euro) 20 billion ($26.6 billion) bailout from the IMF and other creditors.